04 October 2006 @ 01:40 pm
>:|  

Josh Berman lives in the prettiest, sparkliest world evah. Fox doesn't care about ratings, just creativity. Writers have no control over their characters. Actors love the idea of being fired. Audiences are passionate and loyal no matter what.

Pretty, sparkly world.

Much as I'll miss seeing Gale every week, I'm relieved he got out when he did. And that he gave us the ring scene. Oh, Galeface. ♥ ♥ ♥

Now, if only HBO would call him...

The Ausiello Report

Find Out Why Gale Harold Vanished!
by Michael Ausiello

It's not every day that a TV show kills off its leading man seven episodes into the first season. But that's exactly what happened on Monday's Vanished, when Gale Harold's Det. Kelton got caught in a hail of gunfire — punishment for learning too much, too soon. Now, for the first time, exec producer Josh Berman explains why he made his star, um, vanish. (Note: Shortly after this interview was conducted, a tip came in that Fox was relocating Vanished to Friday nights. No confirmation yet from Fox. I'll keep you posted.)

Ausiello: So, why'd you kill him off?
Josh Berman: The premise of Vanished is that no one is safe. When we were thinking about going into baseball and leaving the viewers wanting more, what better way [to do that] than to have our lead character get too close to the truth? On this show, anything can happen at anytime.

Ausiello: The buzz going around is that Gale didn't exactly endear himself to the cast and crew. Is there any truth to that?
Berman: I think a lot of that is gossip. Gale was a consummate professional. I really enjoyed working with him. I don't think that's a fair assessment at all. I have heard that, but I didn't experience that.

Ausiello: How did he react to the news?
Berman: Really well. We had always talked about something like this happening to his character; we just didn't know when it would happen. But when we were writing the episodes, we realized that his character was getting close to the truth quicker than we had originally anticipated. So [fellow exec producer] Mimi Leder and I had a big discussion with him about how he would feel about doing this in Episode 7, leading into baseball. And he was really gung-ho about it. In fact, in the episode where he's shot, there's a scene where his [estranged] wife gives him his wedding ring back; that was his idea. He thought that if he was going to die, it would be nice to have closure with Ava. I thought that was a great, human instinct to have as an actor. He was on board. He loves the show and he loves his character. Like his character, Gale had a lot of questions, and I think that it was very satisfying for him to get some answers before he left.

Ausiello: So, just to be clear, this was solely a storyline-dictated decision, and had nothing to do with Gale or his performance?
Berman: No. Fox told us to think outside the box from the beginning. We're not constrained by, "Oh, we have a [contract] with him for this season." We want this to be an edge-of-your-seat kind of show. And I think now with killing off our main character, no one can guess what's going to happen next.

Ausiello: In casting Eddie Cibrian to replace him, were you specifically looking for someone completely different?
Berman: Absolutely. Gale's character was very tortured by the loss of a young boy six months before the investigation began. And even though he followed protocol, he still blamed himself for a botched ransom drop. He was a damaged sole, and he was seeking salvation through his work, whereas Eddie's character, Det. Danny Lucas, is much more relaxed, much more comfortable in his own skin. He rose through the ranks of the FBI extremely quickly, only to find out that he enjoyed field work more than being stuck in an office in DC. And the fact that he had a personal connection to Agent Kelton — they were roommates in Quantico – was a good excuse for him to get down and dirty and help solve the disappearance of Sara Collins. And that's what brings him to Atlanta.

Ausiello: Let's talk about the ratings. They're not great. What are you hearing from the network?
Berman: All that I hear from the network is that creatively they couldn't be happier. I wish our ratings were higher, but at the same time, I think we have found a very passionate, loyal following, and I think Fox is happy with that. We just wish it were a little bigger.

Ausiello: Are you confident that one way or the other, fans will see this story to its conclusion?
Berman: This isn't a show where one episode provides closure. We'll be providing closure in bits and pieces. As we turn over new cards, new questions will be asked. But we started this show with, "Who is Sara Collins? Where is Sara Collins?" And by the end of Episode 13, we answer both those questions. And then, of course, there are new mysteries to solve. As a viewer, I get frustrated when it takes forever to get to the answer, so that's not what Vanished is.

Ausiello: Will you be presenting a new mystery in Episode 14?
Berman: Not necessarily a new mystery, just new facets of Sara Collins' story.
 
 
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[identity profile] jane2005.livejournal.com on October 4th, 2006 08:48 pm (UTC)
a scene where his [estranged] wife gives him his wedding ring back; that was his idea

Yep. Doesn't surprise me. He brings a great sense of this sort of instinct to his characters.

I wish our ratings were higher, but at the same time, I think we have found a very passionate, loyal following, and I think Fox is happy with that. We just wish it were a little bigger.

I don't think they quite understand they just killed off a big chunk of it.

And is it me, or is there just a tad bit of dissembling going on here?
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[identity profile] url-girl.livejournal.com on October 4th, 2006 09:16 pm (UTC)
I think they do know, they just don't care. In Josh's pretty world, his show can still thrive without the Gale fans. And while I know we don't come close to comprising up the entire 6+ million of viewers currently watching Vanished, I do wonder how many have Nielson boxes. I want those ratings to fall so fast they get dizzy. Of course, the eyerolling writing and Heroes having started no doubt will do that soon enough.
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(no subject) - [identity profile] moonrockcandy.livejournal.com on October 4th, 2006 11:38 pm (UTC)
(no subject) - [identity profile] url-girl.livejournal.com on October 5th, 2006 06:51 am (UTC)
[identity profile] prunejuicebob.livejournal.com on October 4th, 2006 08:49 pm (UTC)
Ugh.

I'm not happy. Killing him is "being outside the box"? What the fuck ever.
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[identity profile] url-girl.livejournal.com on October 4th, 2006 09:18 pm (UTC)
Berman Logic. :|
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[identity profile] mirror-mirror.livejournal.com on October 4th, 2006 08:54 pm (UTC)
He thought that if he was going to die, it would be nice to have closure with Ava. I thought that was a great, human instinct to have as an actor.

Best scene of the episode. He was making up for the ending of QaF. He wanted that friggin' ring on his finger!

Oh Gale. *loves*
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[identity profile] url-girl.livejournal.com on October 5th, 2006 06:52 am (UTC)
Too bad it wasn't Randy who walked through that office door. ;D
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[identity profile] tiedtoanight.livejournal.com on October 4th, 2006 08:57 pm (UTC)
I said it before and will say it again....1) josh and mimi should not be running this show if they decide to kill off a character because they wrote him finding out the truth too soon. do they not know how to pace a television show?

2) they traded in a complex, damaged character that had such potential for a boring, dimplefaced yawn...who slept with that sleezy reporter so he's already lost it for me.

pfft. Gale deserves so much better.
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[identity profile] damietta.livejournal.com on October 4th, 2006 08:58 pm (UTC)
Sara, great comment! You should go to Ausellio's site and write just that.

Deb
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(no subject) - [identity profile] tiedtoanight.livejournal.com on October 4th, 2006 10:10 pm (UTC)
(no subject) - [identity profile] url-girl.livejournal.com on October 5th, 2006 07:04 am (UTC)
[identity profile] damietta.livejournal.com on October 4th, 2006 08:57 pm (UTC)
Josh Berman lives in the prettiest, sparkliest world evah. Fox doesn't care about ratings, just creativity. Writers have no control over their characters. Actors love the idea of being fired. Audiences are passionate and loyal no matter what.

Pretty, sparkly world.

Man, I wish you would go to Ausellios comment section and write that.

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[identity profile] url-girl.livejournal.com on October 5th, 2006 07:06 am (UTC)
Done. ;)
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(no subject) - [identity profile] damietta.livejournal.com on October 5th, 2006 12:28 pm (UTC)
[identity profile] amelialourdes.livejournal.com on October 4th, 2006 08:59 pm (UTC)
I just added my two cents on the tvguide webpage. It went as such:

"Say goodbye to your viewers Berman."
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[identity profile] gaedhal.livejournal.com on October 4th, 2006 09:17 pm (UTC)
So did I -- everyone should post and counter the spin!
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(no subject) - [identity profile] url-girl.livejournal.com on October 5th, 2006 07:07 am (UTC)
[identity profile] rebeccama.livejournal.com on October 4th, 2006 09:04 pm (UTC)
Josh Berman lives in the prettiest, sparkliest world evah. Fox doesn't care about ratings, just creativity. Writers have no control over their characters. Actors love the idea of being fired. Audiences are passionate and loyal no matter what.

That is a good summary of the situation. The ratings comment made me laugh.
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[identity profile] gaedhal.livejournal.com on October 4th, 2006 09:18 pm (UTC)
This is the greatest assessment yet -- PLEASE post it at
TV Guide and make Berman look like the idiot he is!
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(no subject) - [identity profile] url-girl.livejournal.com on October 5th, 2006 07:11 am (UTC)
(no subject) - [identity profile] url-girl.livejournal.com on October 5th, 2006 07:09 am (UTC)
[identity profile] paddies.livejournal.com on October 4th, 2006 09:09 pm (UTC)

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[identity profile] url-girl.livejournal.com on October 4th, 2006 09:40 pm (UTC)


Berman is such an ass, wife.
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(no subject) - [identity profile] paddies.livejournal.com on October 4th, 2006 09:47 pm (UTC)
(no subject) - [identity profile] url-girl.livejournal.com on October 5th, 2006 07:13 am (UTC)
[identity profile] ethics-gradient.livejournal.com on October 4th, 2006 09:17 pm (UTC)
Berman seems to give interviews in the same style as Cowlip. Complete bull!
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[identity profile] url-girl.livejournal.com on October 4th, 2006 09:42 pm (UTC)
He's certainly spinning like mad.

Also, Cow and bull. That totally made me laugh. ;))
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[identity profile] wordsalone.livejournal.com on October 4th, 2006 09:32 pm (UTC)
This is the same shit that LOST producers/writers pulled during the first season and I still haven't forgiven them.

Josh Berman is lying through his teeth...except about how wonderful Gale is. That's true. And I'm so proud that my baby put in the scene with Graham and Ava.

But seriously, Gale being gung-ho about his character being killed off? That's just a load of crap.
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[identity profile] url-girl.livejournal.com on October 5th, 2006 07:16 am (UTC)
Was the Lost thing about the drunk driving thing? ..no wait, that was 2nd season. OMG, what did they do in the 1st season?!

Amen. I wonder if he practiced his lies in front of the mirror. Maybe Mimi gave him a few acting pointers. :|

Only way I could believe that is if he was already more than ready to escape the sinking ship by the time they approached him to kill Kelton off. *smirk*
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(no subject) - [identity profile] wordsalone.livejournal.com on October 6th, 2006 02:14 am (UTC)
[identity profile] fiercediva.livejournal.com on October 4th, 2006 09:41 pm (UTC)
I'm sorry; I'm STILL stuck on the idea that people are supposed to believe that an actor getting his first big mainstream, primetime TV break would be THRILLED when told he's leaving a show early - after working on it for six months - and just all GUNG HO to make it happen. I can't believe someone thinks people are stupid enough to buy that.
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[identity profile] url-girl.livejournal.com on October 5th, 2006 07:19 am (UTC)
Berman's logic really does make you do a mental double-take. :| Only way I could believe that is if Gale was already more than ready to leave by the time they approached him.
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[identity profile] xocydcharisseox.livejournal.com on October 4th, 2006 09:46 pm (UTC)
no one can guess what's going to happen next.

i can guess whats gonna happen next... pretty easily. all the gale fans are gonna stop watching is wahts gonna happen.. ( or at least a majority of them will according to my pole i posted here :http://community.livejournal.com/queerasfolkfans/2452272.html#cutid1)

I think we have found a very passionate, loyal following
*gigglesnort* thats funny. wait'll baseballs done. we'll see how loyal they are...

oooh he is gonna crash sooo hard after the next episode.
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[identity profile] url-girl.livejournal.com on October 5th, 2006 07:24 am (UTC)
Ratings had already been falling - and that was WITH the Galefans. Will definitely be interesting to see how the show does post-baseball. In the watching a trainwreck sorta way. ;)
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[identity profile] my2cats.livejournal.com on October 4th, 2006 09:53 pm (UTC)
What a load of crap...
love that Gale had the idea with the ring,he gave us what we never got to see on QAF...
Well,this "loyal follower" is vanishing...
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[identity profile] url-girl.livejournal.com on October 5th, 2006 07:26 am (UTC)
Totally. I'm gonna miss Gale, but I'm so glad he's moved on already. :X
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[identity profile] on-the-ground.livejournal.com on October 4th, 2006 10:11 pm (UTC)
doing this in Episode 7, leading into baseball

I feel like blaming the fucking baseball now LOL.. maybe without it, it would have been different/later..

I think we have found a very passionate, loyal following,

Yep, but hose were Gale fans which will be GONE.

And I think now with killing off our main character, no one can guess what's going to happen next.

I can. With less viwers you'll be cancelled.

his character was getting close to the truth quicker than we had originally anticipated.

So funny excuse. He talks like if he had no control of what he's writing and like if this is the only kind of shocking thing he could do.

I'm not suprised that the thing of the ring was Gale's idea, after all they barely showed his family and Gale had to notice that right from the beginning..

Whatever, at least the guy talks well about him as a professional and that's something. I wish a lot that Gale had been casted in Smith.. that is I call an excellent show. :)
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[identity profile] url-girl.livejournal.com on October 5th, 2006 07:33 am (UTC)
God, you totally nailed two of the quotes that bug me the most. ;) The writing quote: That whole "Gosh, we dunno how that happened!" attitude is a child's answer. Grr. And the professional line: It's worded as such a backhanded compliment, it's insulting.

I have a couple eps of Smith taped! Just need to find the time to watch. Good to hear though that it'll hopefully be worth the time! ;D
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Smith.. - [identity profile] on-the-ground.livejournal.com on October 5th, 2006 09:54 am (UTC)
[identity profile] juteux.livejournal.com on October 4th, 2006 10:14 pm (UTC)
I have two words for you: bull and shit.
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[identity profile] url-girl.livejournal.com on October 5th, 2006 07:35 am (UTC)
I concur.

*grumpy*
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[identity profile] etoile-du-soir.livejournal.com on October 4th, 2006 10:20 pm (UTC)
Hmmm for some reasons I have some troubles believing the reasons behind Kelton's death, let's face it, if it's really because of Gale I doubt the producer would ever admit it.

I think we have found a very passionate, loyal following, and I think Fox is happy with that. We just wish it were a little bigger.
That made me laugh out loud. How stupid are they? I think they also just lost a very pissed off, only loyal to Gale following and Fox definitely won't be too happy about that. No chance that it will get bigger now that you killed our guy >:(.
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[identity profile] url-girl.livejournal.com on October 5th, 2006 07:41 am (UTC)
Watching the ratings in a few weeks will definitely be interesting!
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[identity profile] lunachickk.livejournal.com on October 4th, 2006 10:48 pm (UTC)
OMG, my brain hurts from the utter STUPIDITY of Josh Berman. Ouch.

All that I hear from the network is that creatively they couldn't be happier. I wish our ratings were higher, but at the same time, I think we have found a very passionate, loyal following, and I think Fox is happy with that. We just wish it were a little bigger.

Er.. yeah. If you say so.

FOX is notorious for doing shitty things to shows. I hate it that 24, Bones, & House are on that network.

*sits back to watch the ratings plummit*


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[identity profile] url-girl.livejournal.com on October 5th, 2006 07:53 am (UTC)
Yeah, he's a bright one all right. Very well rehearsed. :| Don't you love how whenever he talks about Fox, it's "I think..."? Heh.

I hate it that 24, Bones, & House are on that network.

Me too! Seriously, how did those shows escape the retardedness that is Fox so far? It seriously boggles. I swear, ask anyone and they'll have a story to tell how Fox screwed them on at least one show, usually more.

Being on Ratings Watch: Downfall will be wicked fun. :D
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[identity profile] koji--chan.livejournal.com on October 4th, 2006 10:48 pm (UTC)
I never saw or used this smiley before and actually first saw it in paddies or your LJ (can't remember that well ^.^;) but this --> :| is really fitting right now.

Oooh yes, I want their ratings to fall deeper than where hell is ò_ó! (<-- *hopes it makes sense...only remembers the german saying perfectly* ^^; ) Like you said...

Much as I'll miss seeing Gale every week, I'm relieved he got out when he did. And that he gave us the ring scene. Oh, Galeface. ♥ ♥ ♥

*totally agrees*
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[identity profile] url-girl.livejournal.com on October 5th, 2006 07:56 am (UTC)
That is my favorite smiley, hee. And you're right -- it's so fitting right now. ;)

Totally made sense and I couldn't agree more with wanting the ratings to fall. Even with Gale, the writing on the show was awful. I don't see it lasting long.
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[identity profile] court1429.livejournal.com on October 4th, 2006 11:10 pm (UTC)
I think a lot of that is gossip. Gale was a consummate professional. I really enjoyed working with him. I don't think that's a fair assessment at all. I have heard that, but I didn't experience that.

Could he be fucking cuntier? grrrr....
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[identity profile] url-girl.livejournal.com on October 5th, 2006 07:58 am (UTC)
I KNOW RIGHT. It's so backhanded. Grrr, indeed.
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[identity profile] court1429.livejournal.com on October 4th, 2006 11:15 pm (UTC)
clicked send too fast.

Josh Berman lives in the prettiest, sparkliest world evah. Fox doesn't care about ratings, just creativity. Writers have no control over their characters. Actors love the idea of being fired. Audiences are passionate and loyal no matter what.

PLEASE tell me you posted this on his site. And copied it to the IMDb and Fox boards???

We've certainly seen in the past how Fox (and all the other networks) demonstrate their loyalty to "creative" shows: by yanking them off the air! Yeah, Josh. We're believing you. Uh-huh...
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[identity profile] damietta.livejournal.com on October 5th, 2006 12:28 am (UTC)
GREAT icon! LOL!
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(no subject) - [identity profile] url-girl.livejournal.com on October 5th, 2006 08:01 am (UTC)
[identity profile] tamalinn.livejournal.com on October 4th, 2006 11:33 pm (UTC)
>:|

i am in awe. seriously. i was clinging to the belief that berman couldn't possibly be so stupid as to kill of his lead--and what did he mean that gale would be thrilled about it? what actor getting his mainstream big break would be thrilled about being fired? yeah, i'm in total awe. awe, i say. awe.
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[identity profile] url-girl.livejournal.com on October 5th, 2006 08:04 am (UTC)
Berman definitely has a large set of cajones. :|
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[identity profile] http://users.livejournal.com/malli_/ on October 4th, 2006 11:55 pm (UTC)
Naaa, he doesn't live in his own pretty, sparkly world. He's just very selective about the reality he chooses to accept.
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[identity profile] url-girl.livejournal.com on October 5th, 2006 08:06 am (UTC)
*snicker*
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[identity profile] bigboobedcanuck.livejournal.com on October 5th, 2006 12:48 am (UTC)
It's clearly spin, but Berman would be an asshole to say that it was performance-related, so of course he's saying it's storyline. He's not going to sandbag Gale's career. (Just like Lost didn't can Cynthia Watros and MR for the drunk driving -- it was planned all along! Uh huh.)

Berman's between a rock and a hard place, really. It's an unfortunate situation all around. I'm sure the show will be cancelled anyway, so let's just hope Gale will move onto bigger and better. :)
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[identity profile] url-girl.livejournal.com on October 5th, 2006 08:13 am (UTC)
Yeah, Berman really sucks at spin. :|

But thankfully Gale has the play now and then who knows what else in the future. ;)
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(no subject) - [identity profile] bigboobedcanuck.livejournal.com on October 5th, 2006 11:53 am (UTC)
risa7.livejournal.com[identity profile] risa7.livejournal.com on October 5th, 2006 01:23 am (UTC)
Josh Berman lives in the prettiest, sparkliest world evah

I want to live in Josh Berman's world.

Except, you know, for the bit where he gets rid of Gale and then tries to make me believe all the bullshit he's spouting.

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[identity profile] url-girl.livejournal.com on October 5th, 2006 08:18 am (UTC)
No kidding, huh? ;)
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[identity profile] beautifullion69.livejournal.com on October 5th, 2006 02:10 am (UTC)
i only read through gale's thread over at the fox board--because that's all i'm interested in--and as far as i know, he has/had at least 2000 posts about him. are people actually discussing the plot of this show and how interesting they think it is over there?
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[identity profile] url-girl.livejournal.com on October 5th, 2006 08:21 am (UTC)
Seriously! I love how there are topics that have little to no activity at all. And this is the show with the passionate following? *eyeroll*
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